We’re taking a short pause on new episodes through the end of August. We’ll be back at the end of the month, but in the meantime we’re digging out some of our favorite conversations from the archive. We start today with one from way back in February 2023, with the wonderfully heretical Jesse Michels.
A few of the references have aged in the years since, but if you’ve joined us recently, it’s a great way into the back catalogue. If you’ve been around a while, we think it still holds up!